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		<title>Comment on Updating News: North Carolina School for the Deaf by Lemuel A. Watson</title>
		<link>http://rogue1668.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/updating-news-north-carolina-school-for-the-deaf/#comment-286</link>
		<dc:creator>Lemuel A. Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 01:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is easy for the Government to recommend the closing of schools for the Deaf because we are the minitory and it is true that basically, the Government in most states do not want to keep or have schools for the Deaf.  We, the Deaf are the easy target they can choose to close schools for the Deaf just like the white mankind want to change the Indians into the &quot;white mankind&quot;.  It will be a big mistake for lifetime if the Government decides to close a school for the Deaf to save money.  I remember that Dwight Pearson&#039;s words: he supports to keep schools for the Deaf and now he wants to close them because he does not care about deaf students for the future and we (who work with them) don&#039;t.  We care about them because we are responsible for them.  Nothing is new as we fight to keep schools for the Deaf and they (Government or whoever works at the State) fights to close scvhools for the Deaf.  When I was a student, i never hear of this kind and now I see what becomes of our precious schools for the Deaf.  Are you trying to rid of deaf students?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is easy for the Government to recommend the closing of schools for the Deaf because we are the minitory and it is true that basically, the Government in most states do not want to keep or have schools for the Deaf.  We, the Deaf are the easy target they can choose to close schools for the Deaf just like the white mankind want to change the Indians into the &#8220;white mankind&#8221;.  It will be a big mistake for lifetime if the Government decides to close a school for the Deaf to save money.  I remember that Dwight Pearson&#8217;s words: he supports to keep schools for the Deaf and now he wants to close them because he does not care about deaf students for the future and we (who work with them) don&#8217;t.  We care about them because we are responsible for them.  Nothing is new as we fight to keep schools for the Deaf and they (Government or whoever works at the State) fights to close scvhools for the Deaf.  When I was a student, i never hear of this kind and now I see what becomes of our precious schools for the Deaf.  Are you trying to rid of deaf students?????</p>
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		<title>Comment on Updating News: North Carolina School for the Deaf by Barbara Palmento</title>
		<link>http://rogue1668.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/updating-news-north-carolina-school-for-the-deaf/#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara Palmento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 04:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from the governor&#039;s report: http://www.governor.state.nc.us/library/pdf/budgetFiles/Book3-HealthHumanServices-web.pdf   ... under OES...

3. Eliminate Vacant Positions
This recommendation eliminates the following vacant positions: five at
Western North Carolina School for the Deaf; 11 at Eastern North Carolina
School for the Deaf; 14 at Governor Morehead School for the Blind; and two atthe Governor Morehead Preschool (GMS). Of these positions, eight have beenvacant for six to 12 months, and 19 have been vacant for more than a year.Enrollment at residential schools has declined in recent years, from a total of311 students in 2006-07 to 265 in the current school year. At GMS preschool,669 children and families were served in 2006-07 compared to 657 in thecurrent year. Overall children and families served have declined approximately5.9% since 2007. Eliminating these vacant positions reduces overall staff at theschools and preschool by 5.6%.

Rebuttal:  The Office of Education Services (OES) put a cap on the limit of students entering the residential schools for the deaf.  Many LEAs would not allow many deaf children to go to the schools for the deaf.  If these were stopped, I believe the numbers will go up drastically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from the governor&#8217;s report: <a href="http://www.governor.state.nc.us/library/pdf/budgetFiles/Book3-HealthHumanServices-web.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.governor.state.nc.us/library/pdf/budgetFiles/Book3-HealthHumanServices-web.pdf</a>   &#8230; under OES&#8230;</p>
<p>3. Eliminate Vacant Positions<br />
This recommendation eliminates the following vacant positions: five at<br />
Western North Carolina School for the Deaf; 11 at Eastern North Carolina<br />
School for the Deaf; 14 at Governor Morehead School for the Blind; and two atthe Governor Morehead Preschool (GMS). Of these positions, eight have beenvacant for six to 12 months, and 19 have been vacant for more than a year.Enrollment at residential schools has declined in recent years, from a total of311 students in 2006-07 to 265 in the current school year. At GMS preschool,669 children and families were served in 2006-07 compared to 657 in thecurrent year. Overall children and families served have declined approximately5.9% since 2007. Eliminating these vacant positions reduces overall staff at theschools and preschool by 5.6%.</p>
<p>Rebuttal:  The Office of Education Services (OES) put a cap on the limit of students entering the residential schools for the deaf.  Many LEAs would not allow many deaf children to go to the schools for the deaf.  If these were stopped, I believe the numbers will go up drastically.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Updating News: North Carolina School for the Deaf by SHARON R WYATT</title>
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		<dc:creator>SHARON R WYATT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 02:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE KEEP OUR DEAF SCHOOL STAY STRONG AT MORGANTON ..WE DEAF NEED HAVE GOOD EDUCATION FOR THEIR FUTURE....IF YOU OR YOUR FAMILY BECAME DEAF ...WOULD YOU DONE TO SHUT THEIR DEAF SCHOOL ,,HECK NO WAY I KNOW YOU RATHER FOR THEM GO RIGHT SCHOOL AND LEARN THEIR EDUCATION WHAT TO DO THEIR FUTURE,,PLEASE KEEP OUR DEAF SCHOOL STAY STRONG ...IT SURE HURT OUR MEMORIES LOST WHEN HAPPEN.....KEEP FIGHT HARD TO KEEP SCHOOL 4 EVER....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE KEEP OUR DEAF SCHOOL STAY STRONG AT MORGANTON ..WE DEAF NEED HAVE GOOD EDUCATION FOR THEIR FUTURE&#8230;.IF YOU OR YOUR FAMILY BECAME DEAF &#8230;WOULD YOU DONE TO SHUT THEIR DEAF SCHOOL ,,HECK NO WAY I KNOW YOU RATHER FOR THEM GO RIGHT SCHOOL AND LEARN THEIR EDUCATION WHAT TO DO THEIR FUTURE,,PLEASE KEEP OUR DEAF SCHOOL STAY STRONG &#8230;IT SURE HURT OUR MEMORIES LOST WHEN HAPPEN&#8230;..KEEP FIGHT HARD TO KEEP SCHOOL 4 EVER&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Updating News: North Carolina School for the Deaf by Charles R. Howell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles R. Howell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 00:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More than 100 years ago a few caring people decided that deaf people were not getting an education in public schools.  They set out to change that. They did so by opening Deaf Schools.  It did not take long for each state to open their own deaf school.  Why did each state do that?  Because they realized it was the best way for a deaf person to receive an education.  Going to school, living in dorms, gave the deaf  a culture of their own.  They were no longer isolated like they were in a hearing society.  In public schools the deaf are still isolated, even with interpreters.  Once school is out they are once again isolated.  

There are a few deaf people who can handle public school without any problem.  There are a few who can do ok with the help of interpreters.  However, during recess, or lunch, or going home on the bus these students are all alone.  If a student can make it in public school it should be his/her choice, not someone sitting in an office hundreds of miles away. 

I realize most hearing people do not understand this.  Therefore, I suggest each of you (hearing) go to China for a week without an interpreter.  Go to meetings, visit their schools, see how much you understand. 

I suggest keeping  the Deaf school in Morganton open.  At the same time close Gov Morehead and move Gov Morehead students students to Wilson for five years.  After five years revisit this situation.  Keep in mind, Morganton is where it all started.  It is a much loved school.  It would be a terrible mistake to close the Morganton School.  

It is very sad that hearing people make decisions that have a life long affect on the deaf community without knowing what they are doing.  The only thing some people know is money.  Once they cut the budget and close schools the damage has been done.  

Unfortunately, those that make such a decision pat themselves on the back, for a job well done, then give themselves a hefty pay increase, or at least a bonus.  All at the expense of those with disabilities.

Charles R. Howell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More than 100 years ago a few caring people decided that deaf people were not getting an education in public schools.  They set out to change that. They did so by opening Deaf Schools.  It did not take long for each state to open their own deaf school.  Why did each state do that?  Because they realized it was the best way for a deaf person to receive an education.  Going to school, living in dorms, gave the deaf  a culture of their own.  They were no longer isolated like they were in a hearing society.  In public schools the deaf are still isolated, even with interpreters.  Once school is out they are once again isolated.  </p>
<p>There are a few deaf people who can handle public school without any problem.  There are a few who can do ok with the help of interpreters.  However, during recess, or lunch, or going home on the bus these students are all alone.  If a student can make it in public school it should be his/her choice, not someone sitting in an office hundreds of miles away. </p>
<p>I realize most hearing people do not understand this.  Therefore, I suggest each of you (hearing) go to China for a week without an interpreter.  Go to meetings, visit their schools, see how much you understand. </p>
<p>I suggest keeping  the Deaf school in Morganton open.  At the same time close Gov Morehead and move Gov Morehead students students to Wilson for five years.  After five years revisit this situation.  Keep in mind, Morganton is where it all started.  It is a much loved school.  It would be a terrible mistake to close the Morganton School.  </p>
<p>It is very sad that hearing people make decisions that have a life long affect on the deaf community without knowing what they are doing.  The only thing some people know is money.  Once they cut the budget and close schools the damage has been done.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, those that make such a decision pat themselves on the back, for a job well done, then give themselves a hefty pay increase, or at least a bonus.  All at the expense of those with disabilities.</p>
<p>Charles R. Howell</p>
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		<title>Comment on Updating News: North Carolina School for the Deaf by JANICE HAYES</title>
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		<dc:creator>JANICE HAYES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 15:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE KEEP OUR DEAF SCHOOL AT MORANTON N C IT IS OUR HISTORTICAL PLACE WHERE IT HAD STARTED AND IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE OUR SCHOOL OPEN FOR DEAF CHILDREN AND THEIR EDUCATION AND OUR CULTURE AND IHAVE SEE MANY CHILDREN THAT MAINTREAM AT PUBLIC SCHOOL FEEL ISOLATED AND NOT INVOLVED WITH HEARING WORLD I  HAD A GOOD CHILDHOOD WITH GOOD SCHOOL I CHERSIHED IT AND WANT  THE BEST FOR THE DEAF CHILDREN YOU WOULD NOT KNOW HOW WE FEEL UNLESS YOU ARE  INDEAF WORLD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE KEEP OUR DEAF SCHOOL AT MORANTON N C IT IS OUR HISTORTICAL PLACE WHERE IT HAD STARTED AND IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE OUR SCHOOL OPEN FOR DEAF CHILDREN AND THEIR EDUCATION AND OUR CULTURE AND IHAVE SEE MANY CHILDREN THAT MAINTREAM AT PUBLIC SCHOOL FEEL ISOLATED AND NOT INVOLVED WITH HEARING WORLD I  HAD A GOOD CHILDHOOD WITH GOOD SCHOOL I CHERSIHED IT AND WANT  THE BEST FOR THE DEAF CHILDREN YOU WOULD NOT KNOW HOW WE FEEL UNLESS YOU ARE  INDEAF WORLD</p>
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		<title>Comment on Updating News: North Carolina School for the Deaf by The Rogue</title>
		<link>http://rogue1668.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/updating-news-north-carolina-school-for-the-deaf/#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>The Rogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 13:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is another link NC DHHS&#039;s budget which  it proposed by NC Governor Bev Perdue (D).

Please look up page 181 to  202.

http://www.governor.state.nc.us/library/pdf/budgetFiles/Book3-HealthHumanServices-web.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another link NC DHHS&#8217;s budget which  it proposed by NC Governor Bev Perdue (D).</p>
<p>Please look up page 181 to  202.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.governor.state.nc.us/library/pdf/budgetFiles/Book3-HealthHumanServices-web.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.governor.state.nc.us/library/pdf/budgetFiles/Book3-HealthHumanServices-web.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Don&#8217;t Patronize Us! by deafmommy</title>
		<link>http://rogue1668.wordpress.com/2009/05/16/dont-patronize-us/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>deafmommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 03:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Yeah patronizing is not the way to go. Especially when we have been looked down for many generations to come along and that we cannot be ourselves. 

I&#039;m not quite sure if we patronize people who support AGB or oralism or whatever, we have and still are oppressed. So how can we be patronizing them? It doesnt quite make any sense.

It is like telling black people not to patronize white people especially back in the days when they forbade black people from going to white restrooms or bus or whatever. Everything had to be segrerated. Black people were told to respect white men and to obey the laws. Of course, I can imagine how hard it was for them to feel anger, humilation and despair for being treated like this. MLK and his group aimed for the government to make changes to improve lives for the black population. This was successful, although it must have been a very painful and time consuming thing for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Yeah patronizing is not the way to go. Especially when we have been looked down for many generations to come along and that we cannot be ourselves. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not quite sure if we patronize people who support AGB or oralism or whatever, we have and still are oppressed. So how can we be patronizing them? It doesnt quite make any sense.</p>
<p>It is like telling black people not to patronize white people especially back in the days when they forbade black people from going to white restrooms or bus or whatever. Everything had to be segrerated. Black people were told to respect white men and to obey the laws. Of course, I can imagine how hard it was for them to feel anger, humilation and despair for being treated like this. MLK and his group aimed for the government to make changes to improve lives for the black population. This was successful, although it must have been a very painful and time consuming thing for them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Don&#8217;t Patronize Us! by Barb DiGi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barb DiGi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 23:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great vlog Charles! Thomas Paine was enlightened to write the Common Sense by the reform thinkers (John Locke, Rousieere) that C.S. later inspired the writing of the Declaration of Independence.

 I left my comment in dvtv but you requested to leave AGB&#039;s quote about signs...

Derived from Forbidden Signs by Douglas Baynton, on page 55:

&quot;&#039;Speech had become the greatest of all objects,&#039; as Alexander Graham Bell expressed it; to &#039;ask the value of speech&#039;, he believed, &#039;is like asking the value of life.&#039; The value of speech was, for the oralists, akin to the value of being human. To be human was to speak. to sign was to step downward in the scale of being.&quot;

For more than a century, AGB and his cronies have done nothing but to patronize ASL and Deaf people who use it. It is not too long ago that the very same organization wrote a statement that those who &quot;use ASL only is socially isolated from the rest of society.&quot; in a letter to Pepsi. If that is not called patronizing then I would not know what else can it possibly be.

DBC had showed up to deliver a message, &quot;Let all Deaf children sign.&quot; in the rally. There were no statements in the rally to patronize them. There is no exclusion in language of DBC&#039;s part as opposed to AVT/ABG that excludes ASL and underestimates the value of the language that would have greatly benefit literacy and even speech. If you don&#039;t call that patronizing, again I would not know what else to call it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great vlog Charles! Thomas Paine was enlightened to write the Common Sense by the reform thinkers (John Locke, Rousieere) that C.S. later inspired the writing of the Declaration of Independence.</p>
<p> I left my comment in dvtv but you requested to leave AGB&#8217;s quote about signs&#8230;</p>
<p>Derived from Forbidden Signs by Douglas Baynton, on page 55:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;Speech had become the greatest of all objects,&#8217; as Alexander Graham Bell expressed it; to &#8216;ask the value of speech&#8217;, he believed, &#8216;is like asking the value of life.&#8217; The value of speech was, for the oralists, akin to the value of being human. To be human was to speak. to sign was to step downward in the scale of being.&#8221;</p>
<p>For more than a century, AGB and his cronies have done nothing but to patronize ASL and Deaf people who use it. It is not too long ago that the very same organization wrote a statement that those who &#8220;use ASL only is socially isolated from the rest of society.&#8221; in a letter to Pepsi. If that is not called patronizing then I would not know what else can it possibly be.</p>
<p>DBC had showed up to deliver a message, &#8220;Let all Deaf children sign.&#8221; in the rally. There were no statements in the rally to patronize them. There is no exclusion in language of DBC&#8217;s part as opposed to AVT/ABG that excludes ASL and underestimates the value of the language that would have greatly benefit literacy and even speech. If you don&#8217;t call that patronizing, again I would not know what else to call it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Don&#8217;t Patronize Us! by p</title>
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		<dc:creator>p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 17:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles - thank you for your blogging / vlogging

Loved the quotes you selected from Thomas Paine 

I have long wished we could appeal to the &quot;better angels of our nature&quot; (Abraham Lincoln)

Be well, stay strong, seek true peace (the presence of justice)

Don&#039;t give up.  We shall overcome.

Peace

Patti</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles &#8211; thank you for your blogging / vlogging</p>
<p>Loved the quotes you selected from Thomas Paine </p>
<p>I have long wished we could appeal to the &#8220;better angels of our nature&#8221; (Abraham Lincoln)</p>
<p>Be well, stay strong, seek true peace (the presence of justice)</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t give up.  We shall overcome.</p>
<p>Peace</p>
<p>Patti</p>
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		<title>Comment on Don&#8217;t Patronize Us! by DR Hocokan</title>
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		<dc:creator>DR Hocokan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 15:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles,

Thank you for making this dialogue possible.  I wanted to point something out.  It is also an opportunity for you and others to open yours/theirs point of views and seek answers from us as well.  Please realize this because it&#039;s extremely important.  My hope is that you are not viewing us as the only party that is trying to open our point of views and seek answers from you and your side. I hope to see equal efforts coming from the other side as well because It takes two to tango together.  

Thanks again for an excellent v/blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles,</p>
<p>Thank you for making this dialogue possible.  I wanted to point something out.  It is also an opportunity for you and others to open yours/theirs point of views and seek answers from us as well.  Please realize this because it&#8217;s extremely important.  My hope is that you are not viewing us as the only party that is trying to open our point of views and seek answers from you and your side. I hope to see equal efforts coming from the other side as well because It takes two to tango together.  </p>
<p>Thanks again for an excellent v/blog.</p>
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